What the heck is this?

[Yoda]

There was an Elgin grade 471, 37S size movement in there, no cannon pinion and no hour wheel, also no center wheel arbor to fit them on. Apart from that, a few broken wheels, but I found a replacement for the missing and damaged parts in a gift shop in the middle of a desert in USA....

Any ideas for the purpose of this thing? Big onion crown and stem in pristine condition.

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[Aikidosan]

Looks like an ancient Sumarian wrist watch

Hell.......I have no idea but very interested in knowing.

[TicTocTach]

Old car or cockpit clock mount? Obviously - it seems - meant to mount to something, and I guess that is the question. Is the stud some sort of swivel mount, or is that where the crown goes?

[Yoda]

The case tube is where the stem comes out. The center hole in the case is where the center wheel arbor could be seen, but there was no arbor, cannon pinion and hour wheel. The end of the arbor looked as if it had always been like that, slightly rounded and highly polished.

If the center wheel arbor had been there, it would have to be 28 mm long to reach out through the case, I don't think I have ever seen a cannon pinion and hour wheel of that height in any watch. The hands are too long to be able to rotate because of the attachment "ear" on the case. It is a mystery to me.

[djolemag]

Could be some board instrument ? Like on yacht/boat? Just guessing...

[mykeos]

Wow,for a layman like me,at least on the last photo,it looks like a cast iron frying pan (with a whole in the bottom)

[unreformed66]

Well, I've never seen anything like that but it's marked Stewart which if I'm not mistaken ended up being Stewart-Warner which made lots of gauges and etc for cars, industry, aircraft and just about anything else you can think of. Stewart P-20611 comes back as an aircraft tachometer. I didn't get a hit on P-20612. How about a few pictures of the movement and anything else that came with it.

[Yoda]

Why didn't I think of looking for markings....

Apart from being marked Stewart, the movement ring is marked P-20612 and the case back is marked P-20611.

Interesting observation, thanks!

I think that I will ask the guys at Forgotten Fields.

Hm, there were no email address, only a phone number.

[Yoda]

Well, I've never seen anything like that but it's marked Stewart which if I'm not mistaken ended up being Stewart-Warner which made lots of gauges and etc for cars, industry, aircraft and just about anything else you can think of. Stewart P-20611 comes back as an aircraft tachometer. I didn't get a hit on P-20612. How about a few pictures of the movement and anything else that came with it.

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This is how the Elgin size 37S looks like, the grade 471. It is a rather heavy double barrel movement.

[unreformed66]

I'm familiar with the Elgin 37 size, I own more than a few of them myself. I was wanting to see what was attached to it in this case to see if it gave me any clues. As in dial side pictures of the movement and whatever was on that side.