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Help identification of a pocket watch with an "A" brand

Posted: April 18th, 2022, 10:10 am
by sazabi2001
Saw this coming to a local antique store, asking for £65 (about $90). It's a slim watch that looks a bit like Tellus / Cortebert, but the case is quite poor material so would not be a high-grade thing. I checked and it isn't Aplina. Sadly the shop can't let me open the watch so I can't see the movement, The watch without the dome crystal would be about 6-7mm thick, so I guess it a 3-4mm thick movement.

Does anybody have any idea about the brand?

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Re: Help identification of a pocket watch with an "A" brand

Posted: April 18th, 2022, 10:40 am
by Tanukjaju
Too many unknowns for $90….

I can only say it’s not likely a 6497/8… those tend to say incabloc or 17 jewels.

It’s hard to sell a pocket watch without seeing the inside IMO. Might be in crap condition inside. Rust….I can think of so many possible problems even if it’s a desirable movement.

Re: Help identification of a pocket watch with an "A" brand

Posted: April 18th, 2022, 10:42 am
by Mike08
sazabi2001 wrote: April 18th, 2022, 10:10 am Saw this coming to a local antique store, asking for £65 (about $90). It's a slim watch that looks a bit like Tellus / Cortebert, but the case is quite poor material so would not be a high-grade thing. I checked and it isn't Aplina. Sadly the shop can't let me open the watch so I can't see the movement, The watch without the dome crystal would be about 6-7mm thick, so I guess it a 3-4mm thick movement.

Does anybody have any idea about the brand?

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If a seller dont let you see the movement its a clear sign to stay away...

Re: Help identification of a pocket watch with an "A" brand

Posted: April 18th, 2022, 10:43 am
by Yoda
Weird that you can't see the movement....!?

The A on the dial is not necessarily the maker, it is more likely that it is the brand.

My private opinion is that I walk away if I am not allowed to see the movement.

Re: Help identification of a pocket watch with an "A" brand

Posted: April 18th, 2022, 11:45 am
by atkin68
Like selling a car but refusing to allow a test drive. Considering the case it is in, they've got no basis for pricing without knowing what's inside.

Re: Help identification of a pocket watch with an "A" brand

Posted: April 18th, 2022, 12:33 pm
by Tanukjaju
atkin68 wrote: April 18th, 2022, 11:45 am Like selling a car but refusing to allow a test drive. Considering the case it is in, they've got no basis for pricing without knowing what's inside.
Or saying you can’t open the engine bay … trunk to look inside

Re: Help identification of a pocket watch with an "A" brand

Posted: April 18th, 2022, 2:38 pm
by miki360
Union horlogere AG

Re: Help identification of a pocket watch with an "A" brand

Posted: April 18th, 2022, 3:21 pm
by Yoda
miki360 wrote: April 18th, 2022, 2:38 pm Union horlogere AG
Are you sure, I mean that they also produced Alpina if I am not very much mistaken?

Re: Help identification of a pocket watch with an "A" brand

Posted: April 21st, 2022, 5:07 am
by sazabi2001
Ok. I’ll try next time and ask again to open the case. From the look of it, it’s a 50mm watch, and the distance between second dial and hour/minute hole it wouldn’t be 616 type 36mm movement, maybe a 40-43mm movement.


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Re: Help identification of a pocket watch with an "A" brand

Posted: April 24th, 2022, 1:55 pm
by buddhabar
Can you verify on this database...very trusted.

https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/guide/c ... ?keyword=A