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Re: 6152/1 No Crown Guard builds - Ali E

Posted: July 7th, 2021, 11:37 am
by Mike08
toofsy wrote: July 7th, 2021, 9:55 am I started to adapt my cortebert 592r in this case according to the @kpoy 's advices. I had to remove the lip on the baseplate.

But as I'm too impatient, I haven't disassembled the mouvement to reduce his outside diameter with sand paper
In fact I protected both faces with HW plexi and tape... it sounds good and and seems to be clean the 592r still running well
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Wow :thumbup:

Re: 6152/1 No Crown Guard builds - Ali E

Posted: July 7th, 2021, 12:00 pm
by mountaineer
Regarding sanding base plate with complete movement intact,@toofsy it makes me feel better that others think like me :)

@Yoda and @unreformed66 will cringe.

However, I have progressed to removing the wheel while trimming the seconds hand pinion.

Unreformed mentioned he has seen movements that looked like a metal grenade went off. (from trimming second hand on movement.)

Re: 6152/1 No Crown Guard builds - Ali E

Posted: July 7th, 2021, 2:32 pm
by toofsy
mountaineer wrote:Regarding sanding base plate with complete movement intact,[mention]toofsy[/mention] it makes me feel better that others think like me :)

[mention]Yoda[/mention] and [mention]unreformed66[/mention] will cringe.

However, I have progressed to removing the wheel while trimming the seconds hand pinion.

Unreformed mentioned he has seen movements that looked like a metal grenade went off. (from trimming second hand on movement.)
Thanks to validate the process....Image
I haven't yet touch the second hand pignon, i think I will have to use a safer process...

Re: 6152/1 No Crown Guard builds - Ali E

Posted: August 5th, 2021, 10:46 pm
by papabear244
The first time I ever tried removing the second hand pinion, i did it like that (nipping and sanding) and it did not go well. Metallic dust must have gotten in and no matter how low I trimmed it, the pressure of the dial pressing onto the base would stop the movement. Basically I made a mess and the movement was never the same. That movement is now used for donor parts.

I later learned how easy it was to remove one of the bridges. All you need is a good set of screwdrivers.
https://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?/top ... -movement/

Re: 6152/1 No Crown Guard builds - Ali E

Posted: December 31st, 2021, 11:10 pm
by papabear244
mountaineer wrote: June 16th, 2021, 10:34 pm
Mike08 wrote: June 16th, 2021, 10:25 pm Wow that looks already awesome!
Thank you for sharing this project!
The dial is stunning, crown puts the case to the next level (where do i get this?)
What about the spring bars from athaya?
The crown is from rafflestime.com or raffledials.com. It is not as nice as Athaya's 8mm crown (by a lot) but it fit the existing crown tube on the case. Also, I had it unused in my watch supplies. I think it might need an adaptor to fit 6497 stem.

I will look at Athaya's site for spring bars.
@mountaineer Do you know if an adaptor was needed in the end to fit the 6497 stem?

6152/1 No Crown Guard builds - Ali E

Posted: December 31st, 2021, 11:41 pm
by TimeLost
WoW good job C. My Ali case recently arrived this thread will be very helpful for my build. Thanks

Re: 6152/1 No Crown Guard builds - Ali E

Posted: January 1st, 2022, 7:25 am
by mountaineer
@papabear244 you will need a stem adapter to use the raffles crown. That crown takes a .9mm stem thread. A standard 6497 stem thread is 1.2mm.

Athaya's 8mm crown will take a 1.2mm stem and is a higher quality. However, I think you will will need to thread tap the case.

Re: 6152/1 No Crown Guard builds - Ali E

Posted: January 1st, 2022, 10:07 am
by frenchy
I've gone a bit crazy and bought three cases,one I didn't check the details of and it's got a PVD coating that doesn't look as bad as I feared it might. The Ali 6497 movement stems are obviously too long,has anyone counted the number of threads that need to be trimmed?

Re: 6152/1 No Crown Guard builds - Ali E

Posted: January 1st, 2022, 10:19 am
by mountaineer
@frenchy see link for how to measure and cut a stem.

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=113

Re: 6152/1 No Crown Guard builds - Ali E

Posted: January 1st, 2022, 10:26 am
by frenchy
Thanks for the link, I'm being lazy and keeping my blood pressure in mind. As the Ali cases are so popular I thought someone who'd done one recently might know the measurement. I don't have a professional gauge and if I do invest in one there is the danger I'll start buying more cases to "play with" hence the blood pressure concerns.🙈